Seoul's Awful Starts
(The 2010 Champions- from vietfootball.com) |
In Part I, I looked at
how teams did after ten starts. Now, I will just look at FC Seoul and how
they have started and finished each season.
As I have written before, the
annual Choi Yong-soo drama is a horrendous start followed by a strong finish.
Out of it by May, somehow he still does enough to qualify for the ACL.
I cannot decide if that is good or bad. If they gave Choi the ax,
would the next coach be worse?
So, I was curious to see how
each season played out for Seoul. I went to soccerway.com and looked at
the first ten games for each season from 2011 to 2015. From there, I made
a table and split into three parts. The left side is comprised of the
results for the first ten games. The middle part is comprised of the rest
of the games for the season. The right part, which says "End",
is precisely that. It tallies the total points a team collected and their
final league position.
(Adi wonders: Dejan, Molina, and Djeperov- they seemed like an unstoppable trio. How did Seoul f%*k that up? From youtube.com) |
2011 K-League Season
First 10 Games
Last 20 Games
End
Rank
|
Team
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Final
|
||
1st
|
Pohang
|
21
|
2.1
|
38
|
1.9
|
59
|
2nd
|
||
2nd
|
Jeonbuk
|
19
|
1.9
|
44
|
2.2
|
63
|
1st
|
||
3rd
|
Jeju Utd.
|
18
|
1.8
|
22
|
1.1
|
40
|
9th
|
||
4th
|
Sangju Sangmu
|
17
|
1.7
|
12
|
0.6
|
29
|
14th
|
||
5th
|
Jeonnam
|
16
|
1.6
|
27
|
1.35
|
43
|
7th
|
||
5th
|
Gyeongnam
|
16
|
1.6
|
26
|
1.3
|
42
|
8th
|
||
7th
|
FC Seoul
|
15
|
1.5
|
40
|
2
|
55
|
3rd
|
||
8th
|
Suwon Samsung
|
14
|
1.4
|
41
|
2.05
|
55
|
4th
|
||
9th
|
Busan I'Park
|
13
|
1.3
|
33
|
1.65
|
46
|
5th
|
||
9th
|
Gwangju
|
13
|
1.3
|
22
|
1.1
|
35
|
11th
|
||
9th
|
Incheon Utd.
|
13
|
1.3
|
19
|
0.95
|
32
|
13th
|
||
12th
|
Daegu FC
|
12
|
1.2
|
21
|
1.05
|
33
|
12th
|
||
12th
|
Daejeon Citizen
|
12
|
1.2
|
15
|
0.75
|
27
|
15th
|
||
14th
|
Ulsan Hyundai
|
10
|
1
|
36
|
1.8
|
46
|
6th
|
||
15th
|
Seongnam
|
8
|
0.8
|
27
|
1.35
|
35
|
10th
|
||
16th
|
Gangwon FC
|
2
|
0.2
|
13
|
0.65
|
15
|
16th
|
Choi Yong-soo cannot be
faulted for Seoul's start in 2011 since he did not begin the season as Seoul's
manager. Over matched from the start, Hwang Bo-kwan was fired after only
seven games. In those first seven games, Seoul only won once and drew
three times, collecting six points.
From there, Seoul began to
pick it up as Choi won his first three games in charge and Seoul sat in 7th
place after the first ten games. Collecting 40 points in their next 20
games, good enough for an average of 2 points per game (second best in the
league), Seoul rebounded nicely and finished in third. Still, their poor
start really crippled their chances that year. However, it was obvious
that Choi was a significant upgrade over Hwang. What started out as a
disaster finished on a high note until the playoffs.
In the playoff game against
Ulsan, Kim Yong-dae had a disaster of a game- drops, flaps, clangers, etc.
It did not help that Dejan, in my opinion, had a perfectly legitimate
second goal whistled away for being off-sides when it was obvious to all that
he was on. That loss really took the sheen off the season.
(from fcseoul.com) |
2012 K-League Classic
Season
First 10 Games
Last 34
Games
End
Rank
|
Team
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Final
|
||
1st
|
Suwon Samsung
|
23
|
2.3
|
50
|
1.47
|
73
|
4th
|
||
2nd
|
Ulsan Hyundai
|
21
|
2.1
|
47
|
1.8
|
68
|
5th
|
||
3rd
|
Jeju Utd.
|
21
|
2.1
|
42
|
1.23
|
63
|
6th
|
||
4th
|
FC Seoul
|
19
|
1.9
|
77
|
2.26
|
96
|
1st
|
||
5th
|
Jeonbuk
|
17
|
1.7
|
62
|
1.82
|
79
|
2nd
|
||
6th
|
Busan I'Park
|
16
|
1.6
|
37
|
1.09
|
53
|
7th
|
||
7th
|
Daegu FC
|
16
|
1.6
|
45
|
1.32
|
61
|
10th
|
||
8th
|
Pohang
|
14
|
1.4
|
63
|
1.85
|
77
|
3rd
|
||
9th
|
Seongnam
|
13
|
1.3
|
39
|
1.14
|
52
|
12th
|
||
10th
|
Gwangju
|
13
|
1.3
|
32
|
0.94
|
45
|
15th
|
||
11th
|
Jeonnam
|
11
|
1.1
|
42
|
1.24
|
53
|
11th
|
||
12th
|
Gangwon
|
11
|
1.1
|
38
|
1.12
|
49
|
14th
|
||
13th
|
Gyeongnam
|
8
|
0.8
|
42
|
1.24
|
50
|
8th
|
||
14th
|
Incheon Utd.
|
7
|
0.7
|
60
|
1.76
|
67
|
9th
|
||
15th
|
Sangju Sangmu
|
7
|
0.7
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
27
|
16th
|
||
16th
|
Daejeon Citizen
|
3
|
0.3
|
47
|
1.38
|
50
|
13th
|
Even though they have the
lowest ranking of any team that has won the title in the last five years, FC
Seoul still got off to a respectful start. They collected 19 out of 30
points available and were only four points behind the top team after ten games.
From there, they really went on a run over their last 34 games,
collecting averaging 2.26 points per game as they won the title quite easily
that year.
That is why I would rank the
2012 squad as the strongest in the K-League in the last five years. They
were stout defensively but could also play scintillating, attacking football.
2012 was, by far, Choi's best season but it probably helped though to
have the two best players in the league on your squad that year.
(from yonhapnews.com) |
2013 K-League Classic Season
First 10 Games
Last 28
Games
End
Rank
|
Team
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Final
|
Pts.
|
||
1st
|
Pohang
|
28
|
2.8
|
46
|
1.64
|
1st
|
74
|
||
2nd
|
Suwon Samsung
|
20
|
2
|
33
|
1.18
|
5th
|
53
|
||
3rd
|
Jeonbuk
|
17
|
1.7
|
46
|
1.64
|
3rd
|
63
|
||
3rd
|
Jeju Utd.
|
17
|
1.7
|
41
|
1.46
|
9th
|
58
|
||
5th
|
Busan I'Park
|
16
|
1.6
|
38
|
1.36
|
6th
|
52
|
||
5th
|
Incheon Utd.
|
16
|
1.6
|
34
|
1.21
|
7th
|
50
|
||
7th
|
Ulsan Hyundai
|
15
|
1.5
|
58
|
2.07
|
2nd
|
73
|
||
8th
|
Seongnam
|
12
|
1.2
|
48
|
1.71
|
8th
|
60
|
||
9th
|
Jeonnam
|
11
|
1.1
|
29
|
1.04
|
10th
|
40
|
||
10th
|
FC Seoul
|
10
|
1
|
52
|
1.86
|
4th
|
62
|
||
10th
|
Gyeongnam
|
10
|
1
|
27
|
0.96
|
11th
|
37
|
||
12th
|
Daejeon Citizen
|
7
|
0.7
|
25
|
0.89
|
14th
|
32
|
||
13th
|
Gangwon FC
|
5
|
0.5
|
31
|
1.11
|
12th
|
36
|
||
14th
|
Daegu FC
|
4
|
0.4
|
28
|
1
|
13th
|
32
|
For Seoul, this was the first
time that Choi Yong-soo's team got off to a really poor start. In ten
games, they collected just ten points, good enough for a point a game.
This was the type of performance that lead to Hwang being fired in 2011.
However, I would argue there
were mitigating circumstances. The team in 2011 played poorly from the
start, but the team in 2013 did not play that poorly. I would say that
some of that much of their start was down to bad luck- a late goal by Pohang (8:58 mark) in the
first game, a Kim Yong-dae boner (5:00
mark- in his defense it did take a weird spin after he blocked it) in the
second home game, a wonder goal by Bosancic (0:32 mark-watch the run and
then the lob), etc. It did not help that the team could not defend a lead
during that time, as the Ulsan and Suwon games demonstrate, which led to them
having such a shitty record through their first ten games. Of course,
after June, the team began to play better and collect points.
However, they were a geriatric
side that year who struggled to score goals when Dejan was not in the line-up.
Nonetheless, I would still argue that this squad was worthy of praise.
There were several late game winners and they had a great run in the ACL and were unlucky
to be put out by the away goals rule in the final. As I have said
before, 2010 was probably my favorite season that I have followed Seoul, but
the 2013 squad is my favorite Seoul team. Even though they came up short
in the league and the ACL Final, they battled valiantly.
(from mesingoal.com) |
2014 K-League Classic Season
First 10 Games
Last 28
Games
End
Rank
|
Team
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Final
|
Pts.
|
||
1st
|
Pohang
|
22
|
2.2
|
36
|
1.29
|
4th
|
58
|
||
2nd
|
Jeonbuk
|
20
|
2
|
61
|
2.18
|
1st
|
81
|
||
3rd
|
Jeju Utd.
|
19
|
1.9
|
35
|
1.25
|
5th
|
54
|
||
4th
|
Suwon Samsung
|
15
|
1.5
|
52
|
1.86
|
2nd
|
67
|
||
4th
|
Ulsan Hyundai
|
15
|
1.5
|
35
|
1.25
|
6th
|
50
|
||
6th
|
Jeonnam
|
14
|
1.4
|
37
|
1.32
|
7th
|
51
|
||
7th
|
FC Seoul
|
12
|
1.2
|
46
|
1.46
|
3rd
|
58
|
||
7th
|
Busan I'Park
|
12
|
1.2
|
31
|
1.11
|
8th
|
43
|
||
9th
|
Gyeongnam
|
10
|
1
|
26
|
0.93
|
11th
|
36
|
||
9th
|
Sangju Sangmu
|
10
|
1
|
24
|
0.86
|
12th
|
34
|
||
11th
|
Seongnam
|
9
|
0.9
|
31
|
1.07
|
9th
|
40
|
||
12th
|
Incheon Utd.
|
4
|
0.4
|
36
|
1.29
|
10th
|
40
|
In what is beginning to feel
like a pattern, Seoul struggled to get out of the gate again. After ten
games, Seoul sat in 7th place and collected only 12 points. Ten points
separated them from the top and it was such a massive hole that Seoul were out
of the running before the end of May.
Once again, there were
mitigating circumstances as Seoul lost the core of its team. Dejan and Ha
Dae-sung moved to China, Adi retired, and Molina was injured for the first half
of the season. Dejan's replacement, Rafael Costa, turned out to be a
hobbit and struggled to make the cut. I do not know how much due
diligence was done before signing him, but I also feel as though Choi might not
have really given Costa that much of a chance.
Unlike in 2011 or 2013, when
Seoul struggled, they did not really turn it on after the first ten games.
The team really never gelled or went on a run. They did not lose a
lot after the first ten games, but they did not win a lot either. Instead
Seoul most drew against other sides. Still, they somehow managed to
qualify for the ACL at the expense of Pohang, so that is something.
For the final 28 games, they
were the third best side in the league, which seems impressive.
Unfortunately, Seoul averaged just 1.46 points per game at that time.
I believe this shows that a draw was the most likely result of any
contest Seoul played in. That being said, Seoul's showing is more a
symbol of how poor the league was than any thing they did that year
Just looking at the last 28
games though shows what a slog it was that year. No wonder the league
only averaged 1.1 goals per game. Only two teams, Jeonbuk and Suwon,
collected more than 1.5 points per game. This is why I would say that
2014 could be dubbed "Year of the Draw".
This season was my least
favorite of all the years I have followed the K-League. It was one of
attrition as teams failed to attack or score goals but did bore the hell out of
spectators.
(from youtube.com) |
2015 K-League Classic Season
First 10
Games Last 28 Games End
Rank
|
Team
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Pts.
|
Avg.
|
Final
|
Pts.
|
||
1st
|
Jeonbuk
|
25
|
2.5
|
48
|
1.71
|
1st
|
73
|
||
2nd
|
Suwon
|
17
|
1.7
|
50
|
1.79
|
2nd
|
67
|
||
3rd
|
Jeju Utd.
|
15
|
1.5
|
35
|
1.25
|
6th
|
50
|
||
4th
|
Pohang
|
14
|
1.4
|
52
|
1.86
|
3rd
|
66
|
||
4th
|
Jeonnam
|
14
|
1.4
|
35
|
1.25
|
9th
|
49
|
||
6th
|
Ulsan
|
14
|
1.4
|
39
|
1.39
|
7th
|
53
|
||
7th
|
FC Seoul
|
12
|
1.2
|
50
|
1.79
|
4th
|
62
|
||
7th
|
Seongnam
|
12
|
1.2
|
48
|
1.71
|
5th
|
60
|
||
9th
|
Incheon Utd.
|
12
|
1.2
|
39
|
1.39
|
8th
|
51
|
||
9th
|
Gwangju FC
|
12
|
1.2
|
30
|
1.07
|
10th
|
42
|
||
11th
|
Busan I'Park
|
8
|
0.8
|
18
|
0.64
|
11th
|
26
|
||
12th
|
Daejeon Citizen
|
5
|
0.5
|
14
|
0.5
|
12th
|
19
|
Seoul, for the third year
running, failed to come out of the gate and were 13 points behind the
champions. Thirteen points- Jesus Christ- that is terrible. Unlike
2011, 2013, and 2014 though, Choi did not have any mitigating circumstances.
He was not an interim coach,
nor did he lose any star players besides Kim Ju-young. The team looked
unprepared, uninspired, and most damning, unsure of what to do. It is at
this point that Choi probably deserved to be fired.
However, with some luck (I
still can't believe that Daejeon let Adriano move) Choi was able to get Seoul
back on track and the team finished strongly, albeit, not as well as in 2011 or
2013. Yet, it is sour grapes to complain when the squad did win the FA
Cup and beat their main rival Suwon convincingly in the last two contests they
have played.
This is the first year that,
after ten games, no team averaged more than two points a game. However,
five teams did average over 1.5 points a game, which helped to make things much
more interesting. I think it also helped that nine teams were all grouped
within half a point of one another to make the ACL race much more interesting.
It is just too bad that Jeonbuk jumped out to such a big lead and that
for them the title was a foregone conclusion.
(from fcseoul.com) |
Conclusion
With the 2016 season about to
begin, it looks as though history will repeat itself and Jeonbuk will be the
champions three years in a row. They have signed quite a bit of attacking
talent this window- Ricardo Lopes, Kim Bo-kyung, Lee Jong-ho, and Kim Shin-wook
to name a few. They have also signed Eric Paartalu, who plays as a DM.
I really do not know much about him, but I guess he is good on set pieces and
will add steel to their midfield. I really hope Jeonbuk will suffer from
having too many cooks in the kitchen and that they suffer because of it.
That being said, I do not
think it is likely. I think we are witnessing a dynasty in the K-League.
Three championships in five years and three-peat are quite impressive
feats. They are like PSG at this
point in my opinion.
I feel as though this also
shows how Seoul wasted their opportunities. They won the league in 2010,
should have repeated in 2011, and maybe even 2013. Sure, Seoul was an old
team in 2013 and played quite a few games that year, but on paper they were a
better team than Pohang. I guess what I am trying to say is that they
should have won the league at least once more, maybe even twice. It also
shows how short the window to greatness is because after 2013, Seoul have come
nowhere near it since then and it looks increasingly unlikely, truth be told,
they will approach it any time soon.
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