K-League: Who is the Best Manager? (Flat-Track Bully Pt. 4)
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Here is the fourth and final
part of the Flat-Track Bully series. In part one, I looked at Choi Yong-soo. In part two, I looked at how Choi Yong-soo, Choi
Kang-hee, Hwang Sun-hong, and Seo Jung-won did year by year. In part three, I looked at the top and worst
performances by the above managers and got side-tracked by the post-split
system.
Finally, I will look at the
overall records of the top four coaches from 2011 to 2015, starting with the
most successful manager. I have split the table into three parts:
- Record against the Big Four teams (Jeonbuk, Suwon, FC Seoul, and
Pohang).
- Record against teams in the top 6/7/8 (Big Four + whomever else
makes the top part of the split, ex: Jeju Utd in 2012, 2014, 2015., etc.)
- Record against the rest of the league (those not in the top 6/7/8-
ex: Daejeon, Ulsan in 2015, etc.)
Choi Kang-hee’s Record: 2011
to 2015
Versus
|
P
|
W (%)
|
D (%)
|
L (%)
|
GF (Avg.)
|
GA (Avg.)
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
Big 4
|
38
|
13 (34%)
|
12 (32%)
|
13 (34%)
|
45 (1.18)
|
47 (1.24)
|
51 (45%)
|
1.34
|
Top of Table
|
67
|
31 (47%)
|
19 (28%)
|
17 (25%)
|
89 (1.33)
|
69 (1.03)
|
112 (56%)
|
1.67
|
Rest of League
|
63
|
45 (71%)
|
12 (19%)
|
6 (10%)
|
132 (2.1)
|
49 (0.78)
|
147 (78%)
|
2.33
|
Choi
Kang-hee's record against the Big Four is below average (0-3 points; 1.5 is the
mean), slightly above average against the Top of the Table, and dominating
against the doormats of the league.
Choi
Yong-soo’s Record: 2011 to 2015
Versus
|
P
|
W (%)
|
D (%)
|
L (%)
|
GF (Avg.)
|
GA (Avg.)
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
Big 4
|
52
|
17 (33%)
|
16 (31%)
|
19 (37%)
|
53 (1.02)
|
63 (1.21)
|
67 (43%)
|
1.29
|
Top of Table
|
98
|
40 (41%)
|
31 (32%)
|
27 (27%)
|
125 (1.28)
|
109 (1.11)
|
151 (51%)
|
1.54
|
Rest of League
|
83
|
53 (64%)
|
17 (20%)
|
13 (16%)
|
154 (1.86)
|
79 (0.95)
|
176 (71%)
|
2.12
|
Choi
Yong-soo's record against the Big Four is below average, about average against
the Top of the Table, and above average against the lower teams in the
league.
Hwang
Sun-hong’s Record: 2011 to 2015
Versus
|
P
|
W (%)
|
D (%)
|
L (%)
|
GF (Avg.)
|
GA (Avg.)
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
Big
4
|
54
|
26
(48%)
|
10
(19%)
|
18
(33%)
|
78
(1.44)
|
57
(1.06)
|
82
(51%)
|
1.52
|
Top
of Table
|
102
|
43
(42%)
|
25
(25%)
|
34
(33%)
|
144
(1.41)
|
118
(1.16)
|
154
(50%)
|
1.51
|
Rest
of League
|
86
|
52
(60%)
|
24
(28%)
|
10
(12%)
|
149
(1.73 )
|
71
(0.82)
|
180
(70%)
|
2.09
|
Hwang
Sun-hong's record against the Big Four is slightly above average, average
against the Top of the Table, and quite good against the rest of the
league.
Seo
Jung-won’s Record: 2013 to 2015
Versus
|
P
|
W (%)
|
D (%)
|
L (%)
|
GF (Avg.)
|
GA (Avg.)
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
Big 4
|
36
|
13 (36%)
|
6 (17%)
|
17 (47%)
|
46 (1.27)
|
49 (1.36)
|
45 (42%)
|
1.25
|
Top of Table
|
64
|
26 (41%)
|
12 (18%)
|
26 (41%)
|
82 (1.28)
|
76 (1.19)
|
90 (47%)
|
1.41
|
Rest of League
|
50
|
27 (54%)
|
16 (32%)
|
7 (14%)
|
80 (1.6)
|
47 (0.94)
|
97 (65%)
|
1.94
|
Seo Jung-won's record against
the Big Four is poor, slightly below average against the Top of the Table, and
and above average against the rest of the league.
Big Four Record
(Pohang, Jeonbuk, FC Seoul, Suwon)
Manager
|
P
|
GF (avg.)
|
GA (avg.)
|
Pts. (%)
|
Avg Pts.
|
Hwang Sun-hong
|
54
|
78 (1.44)
|
57 (1.06)
|
82 (51%)
|
1.52
|
Choi Kang-hee
|
38
|
45 (1.18)
|
47 (1.24)
|
51 (45%)
|
1.34
|
Choi Yong-soo
|
52
|
53 (1.02)
|
63 (1.21)
|
67 (43%)
|
1.29
|
Seo Jong-won
|
36
|
46 (1.27)
|
49 (1.36)
|
45 (42%)
|
1.25
|
Yesterday, I
remarked about how surprising low the average amount of points for the four
manager is in general. For example, the best season any manager had in
games against the other members of the Big Four was in 2012. That year,
Hwang Sun-hong averaged two points a game, but that was also the year that Choi
Kang-hee coached the national team and Seo Jung-won had yet to be appointed as
Suwon's manager.
Hwang Sun-hong,
who had the best year, also has the best record among the Big Four. The
other three managers all have records that are below average when their team
plays other members of the Big Four. Obviously, as mentioned before,
because the teams are usually so evenly matched gaining points against one
another is difficult.
Likewise, at the
risk of repeating myself, the post-split table has demonstrated when Big Four
members have played one another these last two years, the contest is highly
likely to end in a draw since the stakes are so high and a loss for either team
can be devastating. Therefore, in my opinion, the managers often perform
a calculus that makes them satisfied with gaining one point rather than losing
three, especially if they are at the top of the table.
That being said,
before stepping down, Hwang had put together quite a run against Suwon Manager
Yoo Sung-hyo, Choi Kang-hee, and Choi Yong-soo. From 2012 until the
beginning of 2013, Hwang won seven of eight league matches against Suwon,
outscoring them 19 to 5, with the only blemish being a 0-0 draw in the middle.
Against Choi Kang-hee, Hwang has won the last four league matches
(outscoring them 6-1) and against Choi Yong-soo (outscoring them 7-3), the last
five league matches.
However, since Seo
Jung-won has been appointed manager of Suwon, that trend has been reversed.
Seo has won five of the last seven fixtures and out scored Hwang 11 to 5.
Likewise, even though Hwang dominates Choi Yong-soo in the league, some
would argue that Choi beats Hwang in the games that count. In the last
three cup competitions, Choi Yong-soo has come out on top in two FA matches
(2014- PK shootout; 2015 2-1) and the AFC Championship leg (0-0 PK shootout).
Top
Six/Seven/Eight
Manager
|
P
|
GF (avg.)
|
GA (avg.)
|
Pts. (%)
|
Avg Pts.
|
Choi Kang-hee
|
67
|
89 (1.33)
|
69 (1.03)
|
112 (56%)
|
1.67
|
Choi Yong-soo
|
98
|
125 (1.28)
|
109 (1.11)
|
151 (51%)
|
1.54
|
Hwang Sun-hong
|
102
|
144 (1.41)
|
118 (1.16)
|
154 (50%)
|
1.51
|
Seo Jong-won
|
64
|
82 (1.28)
|
76 (1.19)
|
90 (47%)
|
1.41
|
Against the Big
Four teams (Jeonbuk, FC Seoul, Pohang, Suwon) plus teams that finished in the
top of the table (ex: Ulsan 2011-2014, Seongnam 2015, etc.), the results for
all four coaches become better. Choi Kang-hee's percentage of points
collected improves by 11 percent, from 45% to 56%. He is also above
average in points. Choi Yong-soo and Seo Jung-won also improve when more
teams are factored in, but Hwang Sun-hong's performance is a slight bit less.
Rest of the League
Manager
|
P
|
GF
|
GA
|
Pts
|
Avg. Pts
|
Choi Kang-hee
|
63
|
132 (2.1)
|
49 (0.78)
|
147 (78%)
|
2.33
|
Choi Yong-soo
|
83
|
154 (1.86)
|
79 (0.95)
|
176 (71%)
|
2.12
|
Hwang Sun-hong
|
86
|
149 (1.73 )
|
71 (0.82)
|
180 (70%)
|
2.09
|
Seo Jung-won
|
50
|
80 (1.6)
|
47 (0.94)
|
97 (65%)
|
1.94
|
No surprises here. The
most successful manager is also the one with the best record against inferior
competition. I would argue that it is these matches that usually make a
difference whether or not a team wins the league this was especially true in
2011, 2013, and 2015.
For example, in 2011 Jeonbuk
won the league by four points. Here is a comparison between Choi and
Hwang:
2011 K-League Season
Top of the Table
Rest of the League
Manager
|
P
|
W
|
D
|
L
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
P
|
W
|
D
|
L
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
|
Choi Kang-hee
|
10
|
4
|
4
|
2
|
16 (53%)
|
1.6
|
20
|
14
|
5
|
1
|
47 (78%)
|
2.3
|
|
Hwang Sun-hong
|
10
|
4
|
1
|
5
|
13 (43%)
|
1.3
|
20
|
13
|
7
|
0
|
46 (77%)
|
2.3
|
Here are some of the teams
that Pohang drew against that year: Jeonnam (7th), Seongnam (10th), Daegu twice
(12th), Incheon (13th), Daejeon (15th), and Gangwon (16th). If they had
won two of those games, say against the two worst teams (Daejeon and Gangwon)
and nothing else changed, then that is six points and Pohang win the league in
2011 and not Jeonbuk.
Next, in 2013 Pohang beat
Ulsan by a point to win the league. I have mentioned in the past how
unlucky Ulsan were to lose that season. Ulsan lost their second to last
game against Busan in the 90th minute and the penultimate final game against
Pohang in the last minute as well. However, I want to compare their
records to the top of the table and rest of the league:
2013 K-League Season
Top of the Table
Rest of the League
Manager
|
P
|
W
|
D
|
L
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
P
|
W
|
D
|
L
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
|
Hwang Sun-hong
|
24
|
10
|
8
|
6
|
38 (53%)
|
1.58
|
14
|
11
|
3
|
0
|
36 (86%)
|
2.57
|
|
Kim Ho-gon
|
24
|
12
|
7
|
3
|
43 (60%)
|
1.79
|
14
|
10
|
0
|
4
|
30 (71%)
|
2.14
|
Pohang drew once against
Seongnam (8th) and twice against Gyeongnam (11th), but did not lose to anyone
below the top seven. Compare that to Ulsan's manager Kim Ho-gon, who did
much better against teams in the top seven of the table but much worse against teams
at the bottom of the table. Granted, there were 10 more games against
teams at the top of the table, which is why the race was so close, but because
Pohang collected the majority of their points (86%) against the bottom of the
table, it helped make up that difference between the two teams' Top of the
Table performances.
Unfortunately, Kim loss to the
following teams that year: Seongnam twice (8th), Jeju (9th), and Daegu (13th).
If Kim had won even one of these games or drawn two, Ulsan would have had
their deserved championship. In my opinion, they were the better team,
but a some bad luck and poor results against teams that they should have beat
consigned them to runners-up status.
Finally, the race between
Jeonbuk and Suwon in 2015, on paper does not appear that close. Actually,
it was not that close, but it should have been. I have said before,
Jeonbuk in 2015 were the weakest champions.
They averaged a goal and half a game for the season, which was down from
2014, while allowing a goal a game, up from half a goal a game in 2014.
Other than a great start and the ability to tread water, I feel as though
they accomplished little last year.
Instead, the paucity of the
league is the reason why Jeonbuk repeated. Just when it seemed as though
Suwon was about to make a move on Jeonbuk, they somehow conspired to shit the
bed. The Bluewings really should have won the league last year.
Here is the table:
2015 K-League Season
Top of the Table
Rest of the League
Manager
|
P
|
W
|
D
|
L
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
P
|
W
|
D
|
L
|
Pts (Pct.)
|
Avg. Pts
|
|
Choi Kang-hee
|
20
|
10
|
4
|
6
|
34 (57%)
|
1.7
|
18
|
12
|
3
|
3
|
39 (72%)
|
2.17
|
|
Seo Jung-won
|
20
|
8
|
5
|
7
|
29 (48%)
|
1.45
|
18
|
11
|
5
|
2
|
38 (70%)
|
2.11
|
Choi Kang-hee greatly
outperformed Seo Jung-won in games against teams at the top of the table.
Against teams at the bottom of the table, they were slightly the same.
However, here are some teams that Suwon dropped points against last year:
7th place Ulsan (draw), 8th place Incheon (draw), 9th place Jeonnam (draw),
10th place Gwangju (loss), 11th place Busan (two draws),
and 12th place Daejeon (loss). If everything remained the
same, but Suwon beat Daejeon (probable), won at least one game against Busan
(probable), and at won at home against Gwangju rather than losing (probable),
that is nine points right there.
Conclusion
So, who is flat-track bully?
If I had to choose, it would be Seo Jung-won for now. He only
averaged 1.25 points per game against teams in the Big Four, slightly improved
to 1.41 points against teams in the top of the table (Big Four + whomever
fills out the other two, three, or four spots), and spiked upward to 1.94
points per game against teams who were in the lower end of the league.
That being said, Choi Yong-soo was quite dreadful last year and if he has
a similar performance in 2016, he could supplant Seo as the flat-track bully.
It probably helps that Choi has had fairly good success against Seo these
last three years, with a record of seven wins, two draws, and three losses.
Who is the best manager?
There are lots of factors. If we look at records against all teams,
then Choi Kang-hee. If we look at how the Big Four managers have done
against one another, then Hwang Sun-hong. However, if we add in the
amount that a team spends in salary, then we will get our answer.
Team
|
Total Base Salary
|
Salary Rank
|
Final Standing
|
Jeonbuk
|
$9,707,799
|
1
|
1
|
Suwon
|
$7,066,372
|
2
|
2
|
Ulsan
|
$6,957,354
|
3
|
7
|
FC Seoul
|
$6,095,767
|
4
|
4
|
Pohang
|
$4,719,400
|
5
|
3
|
Jeonnam
|
$4,339,778
|
6
|
9
|
Jeju
|
$4,106,474
|
7
|
6
|
Seongnam
|
$3,822,231
|
8
|
5
|
Busan
|
$2,532,627
|
9
|
11
|
Incheon
|
$2,513,074
|
10
|
8
|
Gwangju
|
$1,909,442
|
11
|
10
|
Daejeon
|
$1,570,245
|
12
|
12 |
Obviously, looking
at the table money spent correlates to success. The team that spent the
most finished first. I would say a large part of Choi Kang-hee's success
is that his employers spend the most to buy the players needed to be successful.
By no means is this an indictment Choi. Often times, the best
managers are the ones that are backed by money. Mourinho, Ferguson, and
Guardiola all have won in their career, but it helped that they were at clubs
that could afford the best players.
Therefore, taking
spending into account, I would say that Hwang Sun-hong has been the best
manager for the last five years. He has the best success rate against
clubs in the Big Four while performing adequately against clubs at the top of
the table and the rest of the league. Yet, Pohang are only fifth in
league spending, slightly above average, so I feel as though this demonstrates
how Hwang has out performed the competition.
In the end, I
guess, it doesn't matter. Choi Kang-hee has been terrible great against
the top four, but dominating against the rest. Couple that with employers
who are willing to back him and get what he needs, it is why he is the most
successful manager in the K-League over the last five.
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